What the CRTC Can Learn From Email Marketers

Wednesday, January 28th, 2009

Back in September when Canada’s Do Not Call List was announced, I wrote a post outlining some of the major issues that I (and other marketers) saw with it, including the vagueness of the wording itself.

What has actually happened though is probably the biggest backfire in the history of Backfires. Many news outlets, including the Globe and Mail, have reported that those on the list – myself included – have actually had our names and numbers sold to scammers.

You see, it’s rather easy to get the list. All marketers have to do is register online and pay a small fee. When they register, as long as they know the format for a business number and the other information they ask, they are immediately accepted. There’s NO cross checking that takes place. No confirmation before the list is downloaded.

This means anyone, including those who aren’t Canadian – and can’t be processed since this is a Canadian law, that applies to Canadians – can get the list and use it to call people.

Which is, unfortuntely, exactly what’s taking place. If you take a look in the hundred or so comments you see with the article, you’ll notice that most of these calls are ones we all get, the fog-horn cruise and those with call-display numbers of 1234567890.

The problem? It’s obvious the CRTC didn’t put any checks and balances in place to stop this kind of thing from happening. Again, if you read through the comments, you’ll notice several people mention things like seed numbers, data checks and data cleansing – without releasing the information.

This last idea is really the way things should have been handled in the first place. It’s the way respectable email marketing is run, so there’s no excuse as to why it couldn’t work here.

The way it works is that (after all the non-disclosure agreements are signed), the mareketer sends their list to the CRTC, who then ‘scrubs’ it against their Do Not Call list and sends back the ‘cleaned’ file. Now, this is the most rudimentary way of doing this. Technology has advanced so much that many of the email companies (and some major computer companies with giant lists) allow online data scrubbing to occur in a secure environment where humans don’t actually touch/see the data.

GASP what a concept! If the CRTC had done their homework, or talked with vendors who offer this service, they would see how easily this could be done and is currently done here and in the U.S., where it’s the law to have an email DNC and for suppressions to take place when renting lists.

Now Canadians who were told to register in good faith for this list, have no choice but to continue suffering the fate of illegimate marketers phoning them whenever they please.

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Canada’s New Do Not Call List – Not So "New."

Monday, September 29th, 2008

We all have stories about that “pesky” telemarketer. My story is about “Boris” who wanted to call and offer me moving services one week, then disguise his voice and offer us cleaning services (I think). If you live in Ontario, you’ll likely remember this. Everyone I know in Toronto was called by him at some point!

It’s stories like these that excite Consumers about Canada’s newDo Not Call List launching today courtesy the Federal Government and the CRTC.

However, this list is not exactly new though. There actually has been a Do Not Contact list around for years, which included a do no call portion, run by the Canadian Marketing Association.

The problem? No one really knew about it unless you knew someone who was a marketer.

There are some key differences and potential advantages with this list now:

1. If you registered with the previous list, only Canadian Marketing Association members were required to use it.
** This meant that non-CMA members didn’t have to run their telemarketing lists through this database and could still call you.

2. The federal government is running this one.
** Previously, if you didn’t run your list through the old database, there really wasn’t anything that could be done to you, at least now you might get some sort of penalty.

3. Promotion. As this list is run by the government/CRTC, there is funding behind getting notice out to the general public about this list and how to register.
** Previously, being an association who ran this list, their primary service was to the members of their association, not the general public, so promoting this list to the public one could argue, was not at the top of their priorities.

Just because you’re registered on the list though, doesn’t mean you won’t get calls. Here’s a few things to keep in mind:

1. The list does expire. You will need to register your number every three years.
2. The following groups can still call you even if your phone number is on the list:

-registered charities seeking donations
- newspapers looking for subscriptions
- political parties and their candidates, and
- companies with whom you have an existing commercial relationship; for example, if you have done business with a company in the previous 18 months––such as a carpet-cleaning company––that company can call you.


This last portion is key and I think something already been misconstrued by the media. There is so much hype about “barring telemarketers” from calling you, but as you can see above, it’s going to be very easy for companies to use one of the loopholes.

For example, do you remember every company you’ve had a relationship with in the last 18 months? And what is a relationship defined as?

Now, keep in mind the rules say that these “exempt” companies must also keep their own DNC list and add people to those lists within 31 days when asked. So the onus always comes back to you the consumer to keep on telling people not to call you.

Consumers can get more details about the listhere or can register as of today by going towww.dncl.gc.ca.

The list is being touted as the best thing since sliced bread, but it’s really not going to make that much of a difference. Don’t get me wrong, the idea behind the list is great, the changes to the management of the list are a step in the right direction, but there are far too many loopholes which will make it very difficult to actually govern.

Oh and those guys like Boris who use the phone book as their list? They’ll still call you.

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